The Singer Manufacturing Company Serial Numbers
If I remember my firearms lore, the U.S. Ordnance Board let a contract for 500 pistols from Singer Manufacturing Co. in April 1940. The contract was deemed an "Educational Order" which was used to determine if a company ...
The Singer Manufacturing Company Serial Numbers
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Please note that unlike some speculation on the internet - they are not rebadged Chelsea Clocks so the serial numbers do not carry across..
Most have speculated that the clock numbers were directly transferred from Chelsea. One chap sent his to Chelsea who confirm it is similar but not identical and not made by them - so clock numbers are not usable.
They appear ( as in the link above) to have started supplying the US Navy during the war to supplement Chelsea and Seth Thomas. Hence the low number on my clock and the claim that it came from a US Submarine - gives a suggestion that it is wartime - but no hard facts so far...
From that link from the NAWCC site they talked about ships chronometers made from car clocks I have never seen one of those made by M.Low.I know Roth Brothers did that.All I seen were M.Low ships Clocks.A lot of companies durring WW2 started making things for the War effort that they never made before and M.Low is one of them with ships clocks for the Navy and merchant marine.Singer and IBM made M-1 carbines that's my thought on it.
Going from memory, Singer was given a test contract on the pistols, and they exceeded all requirements by a fair bit. The War Production hodaddies concluded these abilities were wasted on a product like the pistol which could be produced presumably by outfits of lower ability than Singer had demonstrated, so Singer was switched over to bomb sights.
If I remember my firearms lore, the U.S. Ordnance Board let a contract for 500 pistols from Singer Manufacturing Co. in April 1940. The contract was deemed an "Educational Order" which was used to determine if a company with no experience in making guns could set up tooling and learn to manufacture them with quality and precision using drawings the Ordnance Board provided.
I don't remember what the U.S. Ordnance Board determined regarding Singer's manufacturing capabilities, but after Singer delivered the 500 1911A1s to Uncle Sam the company then used their expertise to produce artillery and bomb sights. Singer's tooling for the M1911A1 pistol was transferred to Remington Rand and Ithaca Gun Co.
Going from memory, Singer was given a test contract on the pistols, and they exceeded all requirements by a fair bit. The War Production hodaddies concluded these abilities were wasted on a product like the pistol which could be produced presumably by outfits of lower ability than Singer had demonstrated, so Singer was switched over to bomb sights.
Going from memory, Singer was given a test contract on the pistols, and they exceeded all requirements by a fair bit. The War Production hodaddies concluded these abilities were wasted on a product like the pistol which could be produced presumably by outfits of lower ability than Singer had demonstrated, so Singer was switched over to bomb sights.
My father went on a sea trip and told her to keep the oil topped up. The day before he came home she remembered and filled it to the very top of the cam cover.
Irwin Petersen (they made several thousand receivers and many carbines but failed to get any approved for use) their contract was taken over by Saginaw Gear. Saginaw completed about 38K IP guns which were accepted.
Winchester (designer and 2nd largest manufacturer), Inland division of General Motors (largest manufacturer over 2 million made) Rockola Music co (made the fewest), IBM Corp (also made barrels for free issue program), Underwood Elliot Fisher (also made barrels) National Postal Meter (Changed name to Commercial Controls at end of production) Saginaw Gear Div of General Motors, Quality Hardware, Standard Products.
Several companies contracted the making of the receivers to outside companies, Singer and Auto Ordinance being two such companies. Most manufacturers sub contracted parts, Quality Hardware making only one part of their guns. Each part was marked by sub and main maker. There was much part swapping between companies, especially during the last run of guns made in the spring of 1944. Winchester and Inland were given the work of the M2 full auto carbines and made them in 1945.
Bottom line: between 1942 and 1945 over 6 million carbines were made and delivered with spare parts, ALL PARTS INTERCHANGE, they never made another run of carbines after WW2. It is one of the most interesting stories of WW2 and only the USA could have done it at that time.
Please note that unlike some speculation on the internet - they are not rebadged Chelsea Clocks so the serial numbers do not carry across..
Most have speculated that the clock numbers were directly transferred from Chelsea. One chap sent his to Chelsea who confirm it is similar but not identical and not made by them - so clock numbers are not usable.
They appear ( as in the link above) to have started supplying the US Navy during the war to supplement Chelsea and Seth Thomas. Hence the low number on my clock and the claim that it came from a US Submarine - gives a suggestion that it is wartime - but no hard facts so far...
From that link from the NAWCC site they talked about ships chronometers made from car clocks I have never seen one of those made by M.Low.I know Roth Brothers did that.All I seen were M.Low ships Clocks.A lot of companies durring WW2 started making things for the War effort that they never made before and M.Low is one of them with ships clocks for the Navy and merchant marine.Singer and IBM made M-1 carbines that's my thought on it.
Going from memory, Singer was given a test contract on the pistols, and they exceeded all requirements by a fair bit. The War Production hodaddies concluded these abilities were wasted on a product like the pistol which could be produced presumably by outfits of lower ability than Singer had demonstrated, so Singer was switched over to bomb sights.
If I remember my firearms lore, the U.S. Ordnance Board let a contract for 500 pistols from Singer Manufacturing Co. in April 1940. The contract was deemed an "Educational Order" which was used to determine if a company with no experience in making guns could set up tooling and learn to manufacture them with quality and precision using drawings the Ordnance Board provided.
I don't remember what the U.S. Ordnance Board determined regarding Singer's manufacturing capabilities, but after Singer delivered the 500 1911A1s to Uncle Sam the company then used their expertise to produce artillery and bomb sights. Singer's tooling for the M1911A1 pistol was transferred to Remington Rand and Ithaca Gun Co.
Going from memory, Singer was given a test contract on the pistols, and they exceeded all requirements by a fair bit. The War Production hodaddies concluded these abilities were wasted on a product like the pistol which could be produced presumably by outfits of lower ability than Singer had demonstrated, so Singer was switched over to bomb sights.
Going from memory, Singer was given a test contract on the pistols, and they exceeded all requirements by a fair bit. The War Production hodaddies concluded these abilities were wasted on a product like the pistol which could be produced presumably by outfits of lower ability than Singer had demonstrated, so Singer was switched over to bomb sights.
My father went on a sea trip and told her to keep the oil topped up. The day before he came home she remembered and filled it to the very top of the cam cover.
Irwin Petersen (they made several thousand receivers and many carbines but failed to get any approved for use) their contract was taken over by Saginaw Gear. Saginaw completed about 38K IP guns which were accepted.
Winchester (designer and 2nd largest manufacturer), Inland division of General Motors (largest manufacturer over 2 million made) Rockola Music co (made the fewest), IBM Corp (also made barrels for free issue program), Underwood Elliot Fisher (also made barrels) National Postal Meter (Changed name to Commercial Controls at end of production) Saginaw Gear Div of General Motors, Quality Hardware, Standard Products.
Several companies contracted the making of the receivers to outside companies, Singer and Auto Ordinance being two such companies. Most manufacturers sub contracted parts, Quality Hardware making only one part of their guns. Each part was marked by sub and main maker. There was much part swapping between companies, especially during the last run of guns made in the spring of 1944. Winchester and Inland were given the work of the M2 full auto carbines and made them in 1945.
Bottom line: between 1942 and 1945 over 6 million carbines were made and delivered with spare parts, ALL PARTS INTERCHANGE, they never made another run of carbines after WW2. It is one of the most interesting stories of WW2 and only the USA could have done it at that time.
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